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Episode 75: Michael Sternberg, Referrals

Released on
October 9, 2025
Michael Sternberg of 3PL Systems discusses freight referral strategy and turning customers into advocates on The Journey Podcast Episode 75

Referrals are the highest-quality freight leads available. They convert faster, they come pre-loaded with trust, and they tend to be longer-lasting accounts than those won through cold outreach. The reps who get them consistently aren't lucky — they've done specific things to earn the right to ask for them and built the kind of customer relationships where asking feels natural rather than awkward. In this episode of The Journey Podcast, Will Jenkins sits down with Michael Sternberg, Director of Sales at 3PL Systems, to talk about referrals as a real freight sales growth strategy.

Michael covers the foundation: you can't build a referral engine on mediocre customer relationships. The prerequisite is trust, and trust in freight sales is built through consistency — showing up reliably, doing what you said you'd do, and being the rep the customer thinks of when something goes wrong because they know you'll handle it. He talks about how to develop that level of trust and why it takes longer than most reps want to wait, but compounds in ways that cold prospecting never does.

The conversation covers incentive structures for freight referral programs: what kinds of incentives actually motivate customers and referral partners to send you business, what doesn't work, and how to structure the ask in a way that feels professional rather than transactional. Michael also shares how to recognize when you've earned the right to ask — the signals in a customer relationship that tell you they'd be comfortable saying good things about you to someone else.

For freight brokers building referral-based growth, explore The Freight Academy or Journey's freight consulting services.

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