Joy Stephens didn't take a straight line to leadership consulting. She wanted to be an actress. She studied engineering. She ended up in sales. And every one of those chapters prepared her for what she does now. In this episode of The Journey Podcast, Will Jenkins talks with Joy — Chief Consultant at New Heights Academic and Leadership Consulting — about the non-linear path and what it teaches about showing up authentically in sales and leadership.
Joy talks about the through-line connecting all of it: you can't build real trust without knowing who you are first. That sounds simple. In freight sales — an industry that rewards persistence and performance but doesn't always reward vulnerability — it's harder than it looks.
The conversation covers what it means to bring your whole self to a sales process, how to build client relationships that survive market cycles and bad quarters, and why self-knowledge is a competitive advantage in logistics, not just a personal development concept. Joy also shares how her background shapes the way she coaches leaders — the specific questions she asks and the patterns she's learned to recognize across industries.
This episode is for freight sales professionals and logistics leaders who want to think differently about what trust actually requires from them.
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