CJ Johnson grew up in Chicago and learned sales by handing out pizza flyers. It's not the most conventional origin story for a 3PL founder, but it's the right one — because it's a story about doing the unglamorous work before anyone was paying attention. In this episode of The Journey Podcast, Will Jenkins sits down with CJ to talk about building BWS Logistics, a 3PL that has made its reputation handling the freight that's too fragile, too complex, or too last-minute for brokers who need everything to be easy.
CJ traces the path from Chicago to college to Sears, where he developed his sales instincts in a retail environment that taught him discipline and customer orientation before he ever moved into logistics. He talks about the failed partnership deal that preceded BWS and what that experience taught him about building something you actually control rather than betting on alignment with someone else's vision.
The conversation covers what it means to specialize in difficult freight: why BWS built its reputation on fragile goods, complex consolidation, and last-minute loads, and how that specialization created a client base that stays because nobody else wants to deal with what they're shipping. CJ is honest about the grind — the early years, the cash flow challenges, the moments when he had to decide whether to keep going — and clear about why he did.
This episode is for freight entrepreneurs and brokerage founders who want an honest look at what building without shortcuts actually requires.
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